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		<title>Brands and Plus points</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Considering that I tweeted this sometime back, and found this a great read, this post is not on the pros-cons/ how to use Google Plus or on the lines [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="https://manuscrypts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Clipboard02.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-4319 alignleft" title="Clipboard02" src="https://manuscrypts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Clipboard02-300x89.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="89" /></a>Considering that I tweeted this sometime back, and found <a href="http://www.toadstoolblog.com/2011/07/feel-good-social-web.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">this</a> a great read, this post is not on the pros-cons/ how to use Google Plus or on the lines of &#039;why I am getting out of Facebook and hopping into bed with Google Plus&#039;. These are just thoughts based on a query I asked on and about the platform a couple of days back.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The context: I observed that, on my Plus stream ( I have &#039;circled&#039; about 150 people), a few people were sharing the same content they did on Twitter and LinkedIn, presented the same way as well. I could understand why they would use these as distribution networks because it is difficult to accurately predict who catches what in busy streams. But what did surprise me was this content being shared as &#039;Public&#039; on Google Plus, when it is very easy to create circles of people with common interest and share accordingly. (using earlier interactions on other networks or even what they share on Plus) And so I asked</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Predictably, the most insightful comment came from <a href="https://

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<p>twitter.com/#!/misentropy&#8221; target=&#8221;_blank&#8221;>Iqbal</a>, who nailed it with &#8220;<em>we are used to the environment defining the limits of who we share with &#8211; rather than having the ability to choose and consciously picking one set of people over another, every time we have something to say</em>.&#8221; In this context, I remembered an <a href="http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2011/07/10/on-firehoses-and-filters-part-2/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">excellent post</a> by JP Rangaswami on the subject of filters, publishers and subscribers. While I agree with his summation that &#8220;<em>We can only fix filter failure by providing subscribers with better  filters, by providing publishers with tools that allow subscribers to  filter better</em>&#8220;, I did feel that in the interim, till the environment (/infrastructure) is able to deliver this at least to a certain degree of satisfaction (it&#039;s a dynamic scenario, not likely to be completely perfect), publishers (us) should filter our output too.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">All of this led me to a comparison of this scenario to that of brands as publishers. Thanks to traditional media platforms, brands had an environment which to a large extent defined the what/who/where/how of marketing communication. Few brands have been able to cope with the explosion of platforms and the freedom, choices and protocols that come with it. As consumers become filters and learn selective broadcast, exploring and navigating the platforms might be a good idea for brands, but it might be a better idea to (also) invest in a content-communication infrastructure which can be customised to meet both the dynamics &#8211; the brand&#039;s messaging needs and the consumer&#039;s sharing habits. (in the brand&#039;s context)</p>
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		<title>Services, Information, People</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even as the first trailer of &#8216;The Social Network&#8216; was released last week, and even as fresh rounds of humour/angst on Facebook&#8217;s privacy algo (Google&#8217;s too) are unleashed regularly, [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Even as the <a href="http://mashable.com/2010/06/25/social-network-teaser-trailer/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">first trailer of &#8216;The Social Network</a>&#8216; was released last week, and even as fresh rounds of humour/angst on <a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/2234-Facebook-Privacy-Algorithm-Update.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Facebook&#8217;s privacy algo</a> (<a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/2228-The-Google-Privacy-Algorithm.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Google&#8217;s too</a>) are unleashed regularly, I found that the amount of things I share on Facebook has vastly increased, though the time spent hasn&#8217;t increased in proportion. Its probably the <a href="http://russelldavies.typepad.com/planning/2010/06/sharing.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ease of sharing</a> information, the threaded conversations (none of my usual twitter clients have it) around the shared item, or the lack of (self imposed) constraints that my blogs suffer from, but photos, videos, comments and all sorts of content (my own as well as the ones I find) get shared on FB. Sometimes I even miss not being able to send a quick mail (where is <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/05/facebooks-project-titan-a-full-featured-webmail-product/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Project Titan</a>?!) to someone on FB from GMail (yes, I have FB friends who I don&#8217;t connect with on GTalk) In a <a href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/06/22/exclusive-discussing-the-future-of-facebook-and-the-facebook-ecosystem-with-ceo-mark-zuckerberg/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">recent  interview</a>, Mark Zuckerberg also shared his views on credits, and  its portability. With search and location coming up as major  initiatives, I wonder when my Facebook data will become <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/23/data-portability-policy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">portable</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In this context, I saw the three kinds of webs (<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_trilogy_of_webs_for_machines_mashing_it_all_together.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener">similar</a> to the ones <a href="http://www.manuprasad.com/blog/2010/06/square-routes/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">mentioned in the last post</a>) and more that are almost seamlessly connected now &#8211; information, service and people. The need for filters in this information deluge is indeed pressing. While I do see some nifty tools that are being developed (eg. <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2010/06/23/sea-of-information-new-interface/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Pivot</a> , <a href="http://www.inquisitr.com/76783/foursquare-spawns-anti-social-networking-app-avoidr/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Inquisitr+%28Inquisitr%3A+All%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Avoidr</a>, <a href="http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-advanced-search-engines-web/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">specific search engines</a> or even <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_twitter_annotations_could_bring_the_real-time_semantic_web_together.php?" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Twitter&#8217;s annotations</a>) I sometimes wonder if it can ever catch up with the broadening scope of commonly used services. That&#8217;s also the reason why I think <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2010/06/facebook-unleashes-open-graph-search-engine-declares-war-on-google/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Facebook&#8217;s Open Graph search engine</a>, which aims for social semantic search, is a big step, even while granting that not everyone&#8217;s on Facebook and their execution still has some way to go. Add to this privacy/security concerns (even <a href="http://adage.com/digital/article?article_id=144665" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Twitter was pulled up recently</a>), and it does look complicated. Further layers like location will only add to this. And I wonder what new levels of complexity <a href="http://social.venturebeat.com/2010/06/29/google-me-facebook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Google Me</a> will bring. With each new service, the deluge of information increases, many times in the form of repetition, and our consumption changes.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The increasing usage of these services has meant that the web of &#8216;friends&#8217; have also increased. In my case, while FB consisted of only real friends earlier, in the last few months, the number of virtual friends &#8211; mostly from Twitter, have increased manifold. Since I don&#8217;t usually share anything on the web that I don&#8217;t want anyone to see, my problems with privacy have been limited. But as the amount of sharing increases, I realise there are things I share that could be taken out of context. There is also the fact that personal and professional lives are no longer silos. (<a href="http://itwofs.com/beastoftraal/2010/06/25/the-client-consideration/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Read</a>) The other take out from the last point is that its not just communication from brands/services that need to be looked at closely, but people too.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">When the three webs are absolutely seamless, we will also see a shift in the kinds of relationship we have shared with brands, services and people. Facebook making <a href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/06/25/facebook-turns-on-paypal-for-ad-payments/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">payment for advertisers</a> easier, sending me marketplace links, services <a href="http://media.venturebeat.com/2010/06/24/gumgum-automates-in-image-ads-for-web-photos/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">making it easier for embedding ads</a>, posts from my &#8216;friends&#8217; plugging services/products with no disclosure, all work as signs for me. I do see a lot of work in setting up new &#8216;trading currencies&#8217; and even different kinds of social networks (<a href="http://www.technologyreview.in/web/25640/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">mobile phones &#8211; closed network </a>) and also note that the one factor that all the three entities need to keep in mind is trust. And that&#8217;s when I begin to wonder if similar systems are being developed for &#8216;sharing&#8217; trust and whether they can keep pace with the deluge of information, services and people. Or maybe its already working under the radar &#8211; new services (<a href="http://endor.se/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">endor.se</a>), recommendations on LinkedIn, Twitter lists etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">until next time, SIP investments for mutual benefits <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<title>Brand Privacy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 04:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The implications of Facebook&#8217;s recent moves are still gobbling up most of the virtual column space available. From discussions happening in my own set of connections, it does seem [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">The implications of Facebook&#8217;s recent moves are still gobbling up most of the virtual column space available. From discussions happening in my own set of connections, it does seem to have gotten a larger crowd (than the usual suspects) interested.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Jeff Jarvis&#8217; <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2010/05/08/confusing-a-public-with-the-public/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">post</a> raises quite a few good points &#8211; the different levels of &#8216;public&#8217;, sharing vs publishing, to name a couple. The issue here is that Facebook is controlling where information we share on the network goes, we seem to have no choice in the matter. Mark Zuckerberg is unfortunately seen as pushing us to be public to &#8216;Everyone&#8217; (a superb <a href="http://mattmckeon.com/facebook-privacy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">visual representation</a>). But that&#8217;s where (and this is just an opinion) we might have reached anyway, given a little time. In any case, there are enough tools which allow me to create a network of my own and share it, without involving Facebook. My blogs worked that way, until I connected them with FB. Yes, it could cost me some reach, but there are ways to compensate that too, though yes, Facebook is really big.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Like I tweeted sometime back, I think we just want the networks to be more &#8216;open&#8217;, so that we can decide who we can be &#8216;closed&#8217; to. Right now, we don&#8217;t get to decide that much, and while I&#8217;m not defending FB here, this is something Google has been guilty of for a longer time. But that&#8217;s a different topic.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I was, as usual, intrigued by how this affects brands online. Like I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.manuprasad.com/blog/2010/01/de-privacy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">said before</a>, I wonder if there is a kind of hypocrisy involved when we desire privacy for ourselves, but expect brands to be more open on the social web, because it is of use to us as consumers. Many facets of this, so perhaps another post. But all this hullabaloo about privacy means that consumers will be more careful about their interaction with brands, and which ones they want to be associated with, at least online. So now, brands will require to do more to gain their trust and/or provide enough value to convince consumers, who might be otherwise reluctant to associate with a brand . Or will the casual &#8216;like&#8217; become a commodity? From their own perspective, brands will now have to get used to more attention as the dynamics of Pages/Groups etc change.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Meanwhile, on another front, another trend that has been creeping up on us is the segregation of crowds on the web. Like <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/02/a-limey-writes/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">this article</a> notes, the web allows us tools to create a &#8216;people like me&#8217; bubble around us. This is linked to the kind of &#8216;privacy&#8217; we are talking about &#8211; select groups with whom we can share specific things in specific contexts? It remains to be seen how many bubbles overlap and in what way. This trend, I believe will not die out soon, and the &#8216;groups&#8217; will become even more careful about who is let in. How does a brand balance itself among different groups of people who now agglomerate themselves and are choosy about who they associate with online? Is this an opportunity to finally manifest the idea of being different things to different people, according to their finely split needs?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">until next time, its &#8216;like&#8217; complicated <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Bonus Read: <a href="http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2010/05/16/matrix-how-facebooks-community-pages-and-privacy-changes-impact-brands/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">How Facebook&#8217;s Community Pages and Privacy changes impact Brands</a> by Jeremiah Owyang</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the day that gay sex was made legal in India, I had wondered aloud on Twitter, whether condom brands like KS, Moods or even a deo brand like [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">On the day that gay sex was made legal in India, I had <a href="https://manuscrypts.com/tweets/?p=989" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wondered aloud on Twitter</a>, whether condom brands like KS, Moods or even a deo brand like Axe &#8211; whose communication is all about attracting people (the female gender so far, since its a deo for men) &#8211; would use the occasion to provide a bit of a twist in their standard advertisements. As expected, none of them did. Which led me to wonder on the maturity of audiences and those of brands. (&#8216;maturity&#8217; for the lack of a better word, a more elaborate description follows)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">From an experience in an earlier place of work, when we had played on the visuals of Sai Baba and Jimi Hendrix and talked about music and religion, I have seen the fear that marketers have about how the consumer will react to a communication that could be taken as offbeat. In the case above, one could argue about hurting sentiments of followers (Sai Baba&#8217;s, according to the client, Hendrix&#8217;, worried the copywriter <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f600.png" alt="😀" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> ), but there really wasn&#8217;t anything derogatory. Now that may be a subjective reaction, so let&#8217;s go back to the initial example. I&#8217;m reasonably sure that even if KS/Moods/Axe had thought of this, they might have decided not to pursue it.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Is that because of a simple positioning mismatch that they perceive, or is it a fear to push the boundaries, of what they perceive as acceptable to their audience? Something that goes against the image they have created. But, as we keep discussing here, consumers are moving on. They talk to each other, and share their experiences about the brand, which may or may not work in advantage of the brand.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Meanwhile, I recently read an article in the New York magazine, which got me thinking quite a bit on this subject. The article was titled &#8216;<a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/27341/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Say Everything</a>&#8216;, and talked about what the author perceived to be the largest generation gap since the hippie generation. While the extreme scenarios outlined in the article- of the kind of photos and complete transparency, of thinking of themselves as having an audience, of archiving their adolescence, of having a thicker skin than earlier generations- may not be what the average youth indulges in in his community, it does point to a generation which is growing increasingly uninhibited with sharing more and more of themselves with others on the net. The author points out that with surveillance cameras, transaction tracking etc becoming the norm, this complete transparency approach might be a saner route.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In fact aren&#8217;t FB/Twitter status updates, and even online journals that many in my generation indulge in, also cases of living for an audience? The details of what they share might vary when compared to a younger user set, but this seems to be a trend that may not be scaled back, and in all possibilities, would increase. With the social tools that keep improving the ways to communicate, and share, can brands afford to cling to the kind of communication that they are used to delivering to the audience?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In another <a href="http://www.psfk.com/2009/07/youtube-blogger-on-selling-out.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">article</a> I read, YouTube blogger <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/italktosnakes" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kristina Horner</a>, who was criticised for working with <a href="http://www.fiestamovement.com/agent61" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ford Fiesta</a>, makes a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUxtBcqanWM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wonderfully simple, yet passionate argument</a> that for &#8220;both bloggers and brands to be successful they need to accept that traditional advertising is not-effective (and even rejected) and that publishers like Kristina can find a win-win situation where a brand supports their work without compromise.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Would being completely transparent (yes, that is a bit of a redundancy, i guess) ensure that brands get a fair deal from the people they communicate to? Like I read in <a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/07/19/transparency-is-the-new-objectivity/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">another context</a>, would transparency fulfill the function that objectivity is supposed to?  But as always, transparency is not something that can operate only in communication, it moves to product, and many other functions within the organisation. So, as more and more consumers realise what Kristina has articulated so well, shouldn&#8217;t brands also take some initiative in changing themselves, and collaborating with their consumers?  That would take some maturity, i guess. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">until next time, audible audiences</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">PS. For those missing the Tool Aid that is the blog&#8217;s staple diet, here are a few interesting reads</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The <a href="http://www.sysomos.com/insidetwitter/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sysomos in depth Twitter study</a> that places India in the top 10 countries in which Twitter has been growing.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The <a href="http://fluent.razorfish.com/publication/?m=6540&amp;l=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Razorfish Social Influence Marketing report</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The <a href="http://www.engagementdb.com/downloads/ENGAGEMENTdb_Report_2009.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wetpaint/ Altimeter list of the world&#8217;s most engaging brands</a>, and how there might be a link between engagement and financial performance</p>
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